• Insekticus@aussie.zone
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      21 hours ago

      And china, russia, and the US break them constantly. We’ve been at a point of no respect for global rules-based order for a long time now.

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        9 hours ago

        One of those is not like the others. What international law has China broken lately? Russia has one strike w/ Ukraine (technically against international law ig regardless of whether you agree with their reasoning). Meanwhile the US breaks international law every week and has been doing so for decades.

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            Hardly. You can’t just claim that because you only recognized for example the confederate states as the true United States during the civil war, that after the civil war is lost, that the Florida keys should now go to Cuba and then help the confederates to flee to Peurto Rico and declare that to be it’s own country.

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          Russia invaded Chechnya and committed an atrocious genocide in 1999-2000, invaded Georgia in 2008, then invaded Crimea 2014, then the Donbass in 2015. The full scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022 is not the start of history. Russia has plenty to things to hold them accountable of, even more if you go back into the cold war era and after world war 2. Not to mention their daily attacks on civilians in Ukraine.

          China is currently illegally occupying Tibet since 1951 and it is daily committing crimes against humanity on the Muslim minority Uyghur in the Xinjiang. They have illegally claimed ownership of the South China sea (simply a formal name and does not mean it belongs to them) and are daily harassing and ramming fishing boats from other nations who have legal rights to fish there, a blatant breach against international laws.

          These two nations break against international laws every single day. They are just like the USA. The difference is that USA pretends to be a law abiding democracy, while China and Russia doesn’t. They are both unapologetic dictatorships with nothing but malice and ill intent for everyone but themselves.

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            In all four circumstaces you have US meddling with democratic rule. Chechnya went from newly formed democracy to Russia-isolated dictatorship in a blink of an eye and immediately killed the regional Russian leader, which was absolutely not what people voted for. Georgia attacked a Russian majority area. Ukraine attacked the Russian majority area in the Donbass in 2015. Crimea did not get invaded. It declared independence, because their then current leader was unelected.

            China liberated Tibet since 1951 by popular demand. People were sick and tired of their absolutely brutal theocratic leader enslaving most of their populace and invited China to take control over their nation as long as they could rule as an autonomous region. The Uyghurs are a majority group in autonomous Xinjiang. What’s a minority is the ISIS-affiliated terrorist group that want a theocratic state. The South China sea was agreed upon during world war II. The US is being a sore loser because the communist party has practically won the civil war.

            The US has invaded Iraq, killed over a million people based on a complete and total lie. The US invaded Afghanistan to find a terrorist. He wasn’t there. The US invaded Libya, because they didn’t like the way Ghadaffi ran his country. The US plotted coups in every Arab nation and then called that “the Arab spring”, because they weren’t considere loyal enough to the US empire.
            The US is being a sore loser protecting the Chinese Republicans that fled to Taiwan, because the communist party has practically won the civil war. The US is starting a war with Venezuela based on lies of drug trafficking, but recently being more honest that it simply wants to destroy that nation so that they can steal all of its oil.

            One is not the same to the other two.

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            Lazy af imperialist propagandist:

            No tinyman square tankman video.

            No hungarian tankdriving nazi slayers.

            No wikipedia link sourced by adrian zenz.

            No mega biased fact check.

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        Ha.

        Unlike international law, the “rules-based order” doesn’t even exist. It’s a thing the US made up. It’s just a euphemism for doing what the US tells you. The US makes up the rules and expects countries to follow them. Why the hell should China or Russia play the US’ game of Calvinball?

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        15 hours ago

        Westerners always assume that, just because they break international law constantly, their enemies must as well.

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          Not really. The leaders of countries defile them constantly and nobody is every truly punished.