Because I’m not doing that - that there is a ratio implied is what’s important here.
The core issue lies with making an apparent generalization about an [implied] majority of a sex’s behavior. That’s making a sweeping generalization and painting a lot of people in a pretty negative light. Dropping frame 4s comment (as I’ve mentioned earlier) does not detract from the story in the least… But does suddenly stop maligning the majority of a group.
You’re mad that it can be interpreted poorly, but you’re not engaging with the ideas surrounding the comic that lead to the mixed reception, you’re fixated on the form of the comic itself.
If I’m “mad” about anything it’s that people can use this comic and others like it to quietly [whistle] and subtly take shots at [groups of] people … Then dogpile on anyone who speak up about it. You, yourself, responded to the second highest commentor and had what you describe as a decent conversation with them. Not two comments into the thread where they point out the same issue do they get lept on immediately. Its not subtle behaviour. This thread is rife with it.
Alright, but you’re literally doing the exact same thing right here. You’re using a generalization about a group to make conclusions about the behavior of that group.
Its not subtle behaviour.
In reference to members of a group engaging in negative behavior, you characterize those people who engage in that behavior negatively. I’m a person, and I resent the implication that I might also unfairly dogpile someone discussing this topic based off the actions of this group.
Alright, but you’re literally doing the exact same thing right here. You’re using a generalization about a group to make conclusions about the behavior of that group.
What group am I making generalizations about? What conclusions? Genuinely asking - I’m quite certain I am not.
In reference to members of a group engaging in negative behavior, you characterize those people who engage in that behavior negatively. I’m a person, and I resent the implication that I might also unfairly dogpile someone discussing this topic based off the actions of this group.
Hmm, If this is what you are referring to perhaps we need to clarify something. Generally selecting a group to make a statement about is not inherently wrong… Its what you do with it that can be.
Example:
“children’s minds have not fully developed” vs “children all reek of bo”
Both of these statements select [most/all] children generically as a group. One is based in fact… And one contains opinion. Presenting that opinion in a way that might hurt somone isn’t a crime… Although it can be presented in bad faith. The major issue is really where somone presents a counter opinion and they are rebuked for it. As before, I imagine you can see some parallels here.
The core issue lies with making an apparent generalization about an [implied] majority of a sex’s behavior. That’s making a sweeping generalization and painting a lot of people in a pretty negative light. Dropping frame 4s comment (as I’ve mentioned earlier) does not detract from the story in the least… But does suddenly stop maligning the majority of a group.
If I’m “mad” about anything it’s that people can use this comic and others like it to quietly [whistle] and subtly take shots at [groups of] people … Then dogpile on anyone who speak up about it. You, yourself, responded to the second highest commentor and had what you describe as a decent conversation with them. Not two comments into the thread where they point out the same issue do they get lept on immediately. Its not subtle behaviour. This thread is rife with it.
Alright, but you’re literally doing the exact same thing right here. You’re using a generalization about a group to make conclusions about the behavior of that group.
In reference to members of a group engaging in negative behavior, you characterize those people who engage in that behavior negatively. I’m a person, and I resent the implication that I might also unfairly dogpile someone discussing this topic based off the actions of this group.
(edit: clarity)
What group am I making generalizations about? What conclusions? Genuinely asking - I’m quite certain I am not.
Hmm, If this is what you are referring to perhaps we need to clarify something. Generally selecting a group to make a statement about is not inherently wrong… Its what you do with it that can be.
Example:
“children’s minds have not fully developed” vs “children all reek of bo”
Both of these statements select [most/all] children generically as a group. One is based in fact… And one contains opinion. Presenting that opinion in a way that might hurt somone isn’t a crime… Although it can be presented in bad faith. The major issue is really where somone presents a counter opinion and they are rebuked for it. As before, I imagine you can see some parallels here.