Because I know how to drive, well. (Insert soyjack finger pointing here.) I never needed ABS. As an option it’s a great idea because not everyone invests in driving skills. If I could get a cheaper car without it, I would be happy.
I’m so old and poor, I learned to drive in deep snow, freezing rain and ice way before this tech came out. Front wheel drive, rear wheel drive, stick is all fine by me.
Great winter tires are way more useful than ABS, but in Canada only Quebec makes winter tires mandatory, and somehow abs is standard?
Edit: I accept any and all downvotes as admission you can’t drive worth shit. I live in Canada, am an old man and never had an insurance claim despite living as a road warrior for 25 years. Let your downvotes be your admission of lack of skill. :)
Edit 2: I am laughing, coughing and wheezing really, really hard with all your downvotes. Thanks for the laughs.
Remember that you are not alone on the roads. If cars without ABS are being sold some people who can’t drive would get one. Then, during the winter they would cause traffic accidents when they slam the brakes and the wheels lock up.
ABS adjusts the brake force individually on each wheel. You cannot do that yourself with just one brake pedal. Thus, ABS will always have a shorter brake distance than manually stutter braking.
Yes. A good driver doesn’t test those limits. (Except under controlled circumstances.) We drive cautiously according to conditions. If ABS is triggered, you’ve done something wrong.
Unfortunately you are relying on everyone being a good driver to keep you safe. It’s surprising how many people don’t understand simple concepts such as the impact of speed or stopping distances…or choose to ignore the consequences.
Skill is such a dumb take on ABS.
You cannot adapt to every single situation by “driving according to the conditions”.
An animal could jump in front of you in the dark. Unless you are literally driving at walking pace there is no chance ABS wouldn’t help you in such a situation if it is icy. Just because you have been lucky through life doesn’t take away the fact that there are some situations where safety systems will be better. ABS and ESP are significant safety improvements that come with little associated cost.
So it’s been proven than ABS can brake much more effectively than threshold braking, which is what most people think of when they say they can brake very well in slippery conditions without ABS.
I’ve driven plenty without ABS too and not a single time have I been at fault for an accident. But modern ESP systems are essentially black magic for safety because all 4 wheels get braked separately depending on conditions. You’d need to have 4 brake pedals to be able to do what modern cars can do for braking.
Besides, there’s nobody stopping you from buying a car without ABS for cheaper. I did for my first car. It was manufactured before I was born, had no fancy electronics and was fairly reliable despite the legendarily bad Jetronic injection system. Cost me around 500 euros and it was a beast of an Audi with an inline 5 engine. Excellent engine sound (but stock exhaust so I didn’t wake everyone up at night).
Because I know how to drive, well. (Insert soyjack finger pointing here.) I never needed ABS. As an option it’s a great idea because not everyone invests in driving skills. If I could get a cheaper car without it, I would be happy.
I’m so old and poor, I learned to drive in deep snow, freezing rain and ice way before this tech came out. Front wheel drive, rear wheel drive, stick is all fine by me.
Great winter tires are way more useful than ABS, but in Canada only Quebec makes winter tires mandatory, and somehow abs is standard?
Edit: I accept any and all downvotes as admission you can’t drive worth shit. I live in Canada, am an old man and never had an insurance claim despite living as a road warrior for 25 years. Let your downvotes be your admission of lack of skill. :)
Edit 2: I am laughing, coughing and wheezing really, really hard with all your downvotes. Thanks for the laughs.
Remember that you are not alone on the roads. If cars without ABS are being sold some people who can’t drive would get one. Then, during the winter they would cause traffic accidents when they slam the brakes and the wheels lock up.
Of course. I said it’s a great option. A very good technology, for those without skill. I’d be happy if you could pass a test and skip the cost.
ABS adjusts the brake force individually on each wheel. You cannot do that yourself with just one brake pedal. Thus, ABS will always have a shorter brake distance than manually stutter braking.
Yes. A good driver doesn’t test those limits. (Except under controlled circumstances.) We drive cautiously according to conditions. If ABS is triggered, you’ve done something wrong.
Unfortunately you are relying on everyone being a good driver to keep you safe. It’s surprising how many people don’t understand simple concepts such as the impact of speed or stopping distances…or choose to ignore the consequences.
No. I said its a great technology for those without skill. Make a test, those who can’t pass have to buy it.
I agree with you. And in the components car.
I am just saying those who are ignorant to driving or safety will always be the weakest link. And of course we have to consider competency.
Skill is such a dumb take on ABS. You cannot adapt to every single situation by “driving according to the conditions”. An animal could jump in front of you in the dark. Unless you are literally driving at walking pace there is no chance ABS wouldn’t help you in such a situation if it is icy. Just because you have been lucky through life doesn’t take away the fact that there are some situations where safety systems will be better. ABS and ESP are significant safety improvements that come with little associated cost.
So it’s been proven than ABS can brake much more effectively than threshold braking, which is what most people think of when they say they can brake very well in slippery conditions without ABS.
I’ve driven plenty without ABS too and not a single time have I been at fault for an accident. But modern ESP systems are essentially black magic for safety because all 4 wheels get braked separately depending on conditions. You’d need to have 4 brake pedals to be able to do what modern cars can do for braking.
Besides, there’s nobody stopping you from buying a car without ABS for cheaper. I did for my first car. It was manufactured before I was born, had no fancy electronics and was fairly reliable despite the legendarily bad Jetronic injection system. Cost me around 500 euros and it was a beast of an Audi with an inline 5 engine. Excellent engine sound (but stock exhaust so I didn’t wake everyone up at night).
I think Douglas Adams can explain those downvotes…