• LOGIC💣@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    And yet the last period date has nothing to do with whether someone is pregnant or not.

    I am unsure how to communicate with a person who would say that unironically. We may not be speaking the same language.

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      12 hours ago

      I don’t want to assume your sex, but I have a strong suspicion.

      I’m highly irregular because of a medical condition, the same condition that sets my ability to naturally get pregnant around 0.01% It’s fine, I have a terrible phobia of pregnancy anyway. My condition is not uncommon, nor is it the only one that causes irregular or skipped periods. Most women experience late or skipped periods at some point during their supposedly regular menstruating years anyway.

      You know what gets you pregnant? Having a working female reproductive system and making sweet, penetrative love to someone who has a working male reproductive system.

      Here are some neat reading materials on menstruating: https://ourbodiesourselves.org/subject-area/menstrual-cycle/p2

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        10 hours ago

        Here are some neat reading materials on menstruating: https://ourbodiesourselves.org/subject-area/menstrual-cycle/p2

        Okay, I’ll play along. But you failed to link an article, just a list of articles, so I’ll have to pick one.

        Hmm… This one looks good, “The Menstrual Cycle”:

        Menstruation is the first part of the cycle. It begins when your ovum (egg) from the previous cycle does not get fertilized, meaning you did not get pregnant.

        How odd. You said that “the last period date has nothing to do with whether someone is pregnant or not,” and then to prove it, you gave me a link that says the exact opposite.

        This reinforces my theory that we are not speaking the same language.

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          6 hours ago

          Yep, there’s a lot of good information there and I sensed a bit of a lack of understanding about periods and healthcare.

          From that same article:

          However, sex with a penis in the five days before ovulation can also lead to pregnancy since sperm can live up to five days inside of you when it’s nice and happy swimming around in the type of cervical mucus you have coating your vagina at this point in the cycle.

          Change and irregularities in your cycle make it hard to precisely calculate of the day of ovulation.

          The context of this is still the comic where a woman with a gunshot wound is complaining of a gunshot wound, where the doctor has asked when her last period occurred instead of taking care of the open would. Something you kinda glossed over in favor of knocking at the weakest part of my comment — my use of the word “nothing.” This tells me you don’t really care about understanding another viewpoint, you’re trying to score a point in the argument.

          Anyway, if someone’s last period was three weeks ago, they could be pregnant. If it was six months ago, they could be pregnant. If it was seven months ago, they could have an IUD or another birth control, which could cause a drug interaction, so that’s good to know. If she’s on her period right now, she could be breastfeeding, and studies have shown local anaesthetic will shows up in breast milk.

          In Canada, I get asked if I’m pregnant or breastfeeding if there might be an issue, not this roundabout period date bullshit.

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            5 hours ago

            Something you kinda glossed over in favor of knocking at the weakest part of my comment — my use of the word “nothing.” This tells me you don’t really care about understanding another viewpoint, you’re trying to score a point in the argument.

            The weakest part of your comment? It was the first sentence of your comment. That’s where people put their strongest point. The point that they want to emphasize the most.

            And what’s your argument without that point? That the question is only useful sometimes? That makes it like almost every other question the doctor asks. If it’s sometimes useful, and when it’s useful, it’s very useful, then it makes sense for a doctor to ask the question.

            Your argument is strongest if you can pretend the question about periods is never useful. I believe that’s why you led off with the point. Because it was your strongest point and essential to your argument. And that’s why I focused on it.

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        11 hours ago

        The other person is probably upset because you wrote that last period date has nothing to do with pregnancy.

        I reality, it does have something to do with it, but is not the only reason that the menstrual cycle is delayed.

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          7 hours ago

          I didn’t say the menstrual cycle though, I said the last period date. No matter how much time has passed since someone’s last period, it doesn’t tell you whether they’re pregnant or not.

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          10 hours ago

          Not just something to do with it, a whole hell of a lot to do with it.

          You might as well say that clouds have nothing to do with the rain.

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            7 hours ago

            Riddle me this:

            You’re a doctor. A patient comes in to your office, 5’3", woman, 175lbs, looks hydrated — you ask her last period date, she says “about four weeks ago.”

            Do you now know anything about whether or not she’s pregnant?

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              6 hours ago

              Do you think doctors should collect patient history assuming that patients will always give the least informative answers?

              Here are some other possible answers: “My last period was 6 weeks ago,” or “I am currently having my period,” or “I am 3 months pregnant,” or “A long time ago. I’m post menopausal.”

              Do you think the doctor would be able to know anything about whether these patients are pregnant? It seems like the question can actually give information if you don’t assume the least useful scenario.

              But I think we can all agree. If women only went to the doctor exactly 4 weeks after their last period, then it would be a useless question, like you say.