Oral arguments at the Supreme Court on Monday over the president’s power to remove the commissioners of independent agencies left little doubt that its Republican-appointed justices are about to fundamentally reorder our system of government. They appear ready to eliminate most pockets of expertise and nonpartisanship that we rely on as stewards of important economic, political, scientific, and regulatory power.
They will do this, if this morning’s arguments are any indication, without grappling with the predictable and disastrous fallout, with the endpoint of their own logic, or the historical record to the contrary. Instead, the six Republican appointees appear ready to race headlong into a Trumpian future in which no agency or decision is beyond the reach of the precedent’s political cronies.
“You’re asking us to destroy the structure of government,” Justice Sonia Sotomayor observed Monday, “and to take away from Congress its ability to protect its idea that the government is better structured with some agencies that are independent.”
When does it become treason to the constitution and civil war is required? Where is the line, because waiting for it to feel like it and acting them, isn’t going to be effective. Where is the redline where the people decide, ‘If they do this, it’s (some form of) war.’?
To be honest that line is probably when ICE/brownshirts/whoever start mass killing people during protests. Historically, that’s what it has taken for the citizens to begin to actually fight back against authoritarian regimes. However, every individual can do whatever they want, whenever they want. Also the line is when issues with food/water/security are directly affecting enough “common” people.
MAGA is hoping to avoid that obviously, so they’ll go right to that line (captained by Miller, Vought, Lutnick, Vance/Thiel) but not go past it.
i’v halfway considered taking down the murdoch empire…don’t think it’d take much. his daughters want to sell the empire out for scraps, only his prodigal son wants to continue the family business of spreading hate to the world.
only thing really stopping me is my mum. i’m no martyr, i don’t think would feel bad enough afterwards to turn myself in or anything, but if i got caught I would feel bad for her potentially getting caught up in the inevitable media circus that’d follow
soon as she croaks though…
that’s a crazy thing to say here… maybe seek some legal means to go after his son first, like lawsuits, etc.?
say what?
When they mess with too many of the elites. I don’t think common everyday people are going to do much resisting. I mean some might, but not a large enough group to make much of a difference. So if the Trump admin really fucks up corporate America like in a way that can’t be just paid off then we’d see some actual opposition.
I guess maybe the people could vote the GOP out in 2026, but the masses are so thoroughly divided the chances of that happening are slim. Or if Trump and his regime end up blundering so badly that lots of people actually start starving also super slim chance.
Fucking with social security is a big one
Not so sure about that. You underestimate people’s ability to be misinformed.