That was one of the things that forced me from de-googled LineageOS to GrapheneOS. A compromise without being compromised. I’d like to run a proper Linux phone, but the bad apps forced into my life isn’t going anyway, and less and less with run on a freed Android phone. The problem is political not technical, too many of us nerds are fighting the wrong front. (Partly, because the political from is too much human interaction to face.)
Never used stock Google (Cyanogen, Lineage, now Calyx), never had a problem with my banking apps (at least three). Maybe my banks are just cool / unsafe 😸
My bank for work is super uncool. It requires the app to even auth web access on your desktop. The app refused to run on LineageOS despite the tricks I tried. It will run on GrapheneOS, for now. Why is it legal to block phone OS flavours??
The other gotta is navigation with traffic info. OrganicMaps is great, the maps are lovely, but without traffic into, the routing just keeps failing me badly. I need an open satnav with traffic info. Traffic flow should be open access, but it’s all wall gardened. Least in UK.
Also, that isn’t the only source of information. There are a lot traffic cameras, and speed cameras just need a comms link. Probably other stat sources than these.
The market isn’t really able to function right now.
Traffic info requires people to share their location data with Google, so expecting traffic info while actively fighting against the method of collecting it is a bit hypocritical.
There is a “network effect” competition problem with that view.
Also, that isn’t the only source of information. There are a lot traffic cameras, and speed cameras just need a comms link. Probably other stat sources than those.
We want a functional market for SatNavs, and we don’t really have it.
Not to me too many bank apps refuse to work outside what they see as secure android environments.
That was one of the things that forced me from de-googled LineageOS to GrapheneOS. A compromise without being compromised. I’d like to run a proper Linux phone, but the bad apps forced into my life isn’t going anyway, and less and less with run on a freed Android phone. The problem is political not technical, too many of us nerds are fighting the wrong front. (Partly, because the political from is too much human interaction to face.)
Never used stock Google (Cyanogen, Lineage, now Calyx), never had a problem with my banking apps (at least three). Maybe my banks are just cool / unsafe 😸
My bank for work is super uncool. It requires the app to even auth web access on your desktop. The app refused to run on LineageOS despite the tricks I tried. It will run on GrapheneOS, for now. Why is it legal to block phone OS flavours??
The other gotta is navigation with traffic info. OrganicMaps is great, the maps are lovely, but without traffic into, the routing just keeps failing me badly. I need an open satnav with traffic info. Traffic flow should be open access, but it’s all wall gardened. Least in UK.
On your last point, most traffic monitoring is by the apps tracking everyone via Google (etc), not wires under the roads
So, we’d need a LOT of people to be aware of the benefits of tracking for a specific app / backend before anyone would start using it.
If we could get at the car tracking data the manufacturers use, that would be a start
Also, that isn’t the only source of information. There are a lot traffic cameras, and speed cameras just need a comms link. Probably other stat sources than these.
The market isn’t really able to function right now.
Traffic info requires people to share their location data with Google, so expecting traffic info while actively fighting against the method of collecting it is a bit hypocritical.
There is a “network effect” competition problem with that view.
Also, that isn’t the only source of information. There are a lot traffic cameras, and speed cameras just need a comms link. Probably other stat sources than those.
We want a functional market for SatNavs, and we don’t really have it.
Yeah, Bank apps and anything that has to do with money, even the parking app in my city, or the public transport app…