So if you think about it…

You are required to essentially stay destitute for their risk? They choose to drive around in a 180,000 dollar car and “the poors” better have insurance on those Toyota Yaris in case something happens.

I’m going to disagree here. Blaming the sacklers is a copout.

People use drugs because they are unfulfilled, repressed, etc. our situation and culture is fucked up.

People are NOT going to start, or stop, using drugs due to the actions of some scapegoat. Frankly dr prescribed opiates from the pharmacy are likely our best bet. They/we(I am in recovery) are going to use something because we WANT to. Not because you are selling it. You are selling it because I want it.

Watch what happens when they pull Kratom and 7oh. Another wave of death as people turn to the streets. A new scapegoat for the capitalists sucking our lives away for their benefit. 8 hour work, they own your lunch too pretty much so that’s 9. Commute and hour each way. That’s 11. Pick up the kids cook dinner and do it all again. Just do subsist and breed the next gen of sheep to be sheared. THATS who you blame.

There is no reward doing that for someone else so we seek out a way to stimulate our reward pathway.

Data aggregation and mining have already made a mockery of the idea of humans having free will. Why cry now?

We are just a herd. Can I move THAT sheep? Maybe. Can I move the herd? Absolutely.

It isn’t 1982… a drug smuggling ship… is a container ship. With people paid off to let the container through.

There is zero control over drugs entering the United States. It’s a farce. A show. Drugs come in by the container load. 50k to the customs agent, done.

Off the top of my head Andre Norton is completely overlooked in this thread. Like… what?

Mercedes lackey.

Cj Cherryh.

Katherine Kurtz.

This will probably get me whacked…

Or has the historical narrative been rewritten so thoroughly, and public opinion directed so well, that… well no no we can’t say that out loud.

But I mean has this been the behavior of millennia? Does capitalism even exist in its current form without usury?

At this point I am pretty comfortable saying glass Israel. If there was a vote right now I’d say just do it. You can’t just be complicit and benefit from these horrible things and expect complete absolution. That’s pretty extreme and a worldwide ban of Israel, dissolution, a ban on any sort of theocratic or quasi-theocratic state and anything looking like it would be mandatory. I don’t think that would work in practice though, just more lies would be the result. “God promised us this land” is a mental disorder at best and more likely a blatant “you can’t outright say I am lying” high school level lie in practice.

The embarrassment and shame of being Zionist like Germany had over nazism is absolutely necessary though. I’m just not sure that was as well placed as we think. Currently we discuss the nazis persecution of Jewish people as “that’s just crazy and sick, how could anyone do such a thing” while Zion exists and is shamelessly genociding a people while overtly manipulating the gentiles as if we are animals. Is this the behavior pre ww2? Was this telegraphed? I believe so.

As a complete aside, and I am very interested and empathize with the Romani people, I am fascinated by their ability to see non Romani as (insert however they actually see us here) and include their children in their hustles. Like how do you explain to kids that it’s us against the world(literally) and we are allowed to lie and manipulate them at all costs? This thought occurred to me when I was helping a nice family who apparently had ran out of gas. The kid was doing their part with the sad eyes and all that. I would love to chat with a gypsy(with all due respect) to get some insights on their culture.

I can’t help but draw a parallel there though. Nazi persecution of peoples who see themselves as apart and those two groups overt exploitation of those who are not of their culture. Zionists simply being much more successful as of now.

I kinda see extreme measures being required to get these people(zionists) to stop being necessary. And where is the line? How is that accomplished?

I dunno but more and more being disgusted with this farce in Palestine I can’t help but reflect on this…