U.S. Roman Catholic bishops delivered a “special pastoral message on immigration” on Wednesday, raising “our concern here for immigrants.”
Although it doesn’t mention President Trump by name, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops’ (USCCB) message marks a rare public reproach of his immigration policies.
Good luck with that. You’ve lost half of your flock to fascism. Christians and especially Catholics are now so far from Christ you can hardly call them Christians. Last year a traveling priest gave mass at my mother’s church and during his sermon he went on and on about how the left is the cause of all our ills and how they should be shunned. I can only hope there is another schism so they can spread themselves even thinner. Good riddance to these evil religions. Truly vile bastards if you ask me.
So the thing is if you look throughout history that’s always how Christianity has been
I live in a fairly heavily Catholic town, and it’s a swing district. By in large Catholics are voting red on abortion and otherwise fairly blue. The maga signs really tend to thin out around the Catholic churches and last time I was over there, there wasn’t one within a mile of the cathedral.
This area would be reliably blue if the national party would fund local politicians who have unfortunate views on abortion. But they refuse to. As a result we nearly elected an independent to the Senate last year and are likely to elect one to Congress this election. Several Democrats have jumped ship and are now full tilt Republicans.
Really sounds like catholics need to stop being stupid about abortion. You rush to baptize dying newborns cause they now have souls, but there’s no fear for stillborns since they don’t. Maybe aligning that shit with your abortion stance would fix the issue.
Talk to your pope about that, maybe?
I mean, I agree with you but that’s not going to happen. It’s a rather filthy compromise I’m asking for but the alternative is reliable conservative wins in a district that should be purple.
The thing is, politicians are shallow and driven by money. They’re much easier to work with when they’re on your team and in your pocket.
I’ll grant you, the DNC would rather not fund candidates who will reliably vote with Republicans on a certain issue, I get that those candidates have well known and exploitable weak spot. But when no other candidate is available that passes that particular purity test, the DNC should be holding it’s nose and fighting for every seat it can get. If they control the tap, they can influence those representatives. If they cut off the tap entirely, those representatives go to the other team for money who will be happy to control the tap for influence.
The alternative is more reliable Republican voters, more reliably Republican seats.
Abortion is a wedge issue because it’s one those things that feels incredibly moral no matter what side you’re on.
Anti-abortion think it’s allowing for murder cause “baby-killing”. I want to give it more depth than that, but that’s about as deep as it goes
Pro-abortion correctly calls that it doesn’t save anywhere near as many babies as it will kill both babies and mothers. A reality we’re seeing play out with the overturn of Roe v Wade
This is one of the unfortunate cases where religions are wrong and will need to adjust to reality. Hell, most evangelicals adjusted to seeing abortion as morally wrong in the last 50 years or so (to convince them to vote republican)
The cool thing about catholicism is that the pope can and does change the rules. He just needs to be proactive on this and explain to his flock why it needs to change.
The Pope only has that authority on paper. Reality is quite a bit messier than that. The last time the Pope tried to dramatically change the rules like that it caused a schism that was never repaired. And that was just over having Mass in anything other than Latin.
Culture doesn’t pivot on a dime, and you’re suggesting that a cultural tidal wave stop and change direction on the head of a pin.
And you’re suggesting that democrats reverse direction on a position that’s been a major driver for votes for them for decades now. Yeah, they won’t win your purple county over it, but they’ll definitely not lose all the blue counties they win because of it.
Nationwide? Absolutely not. For specific seats where the only viable candidates disagree with the national party? Absolutely. Look the other way and apply pressure. Instead of turning their back entirely and letting them switch parties.
That’s interesting. In my area it’s predominantly Catholics and there are/were a ton of Trump signs, even some Confederate flags, which is funny as I’m as far North as one can get in the US. My town votes 70% Republican every election. I have noticed some Trump signs coming down, but they are still quite common and folks are still openly supporting him.
Fuck the RCC