Wait NVM she’s not running for her mom’s seat, she’s running for state senate. I generally don’t think family dynasty politics are a good thing, but I also don’t know anything about her. I guess that’s not quite as infuriating as it could be?
Christine Pelosi passes on bid for retiring mother’s House seat
It is important people know that before she announced she was stepping down, Pelosi was already being challenged by a progressive who has proven he won’t just go along with mainstream media spin.
I can’t vote for him, but California, this seems like it could be your chance to take a step towards actually getting the control of your state out of the hands of big business “progressives” and “liberals.”
AOC’s former campaign manager who made CNN so uncomfortable by refusing to drop the subject and asking them to just please acknowledge reality. The host chuckled nervously and cut to a commercial break. Seems like an obvious choice.
CNN Cuts Off Pelosi Primary Challenger’s Discussion of NSPM-7
Saikat Chakrabarti, the progressive organizer who is challenging US Rep. Nancy Pelosi for the House seat she has held since 1987, was met with stone-faced stares and laughter on CNN when he spoke during a panel discussion Monday about the Trump administration national security memo that one journalist said amounts to a “declaration of war” on the president’s political opponents.
“Do you think that’s okay?” he asked the other panelists. “Can you put two and two together about what’s going on here?”
None of the other guests responded, and Seat looked blankly at Chakrabarti before Sidner said the show was going to a commercial break.
“We will answer that question, coming up,” Sidner said, laughing. “We’re going to leave it there for that conversation.”
Too young come back in 40 years
And just when I thought that bitch would die, here comes another establishment crook to prevent progress of promising folks like Jasmine and AOC. Republicans are disgusting, but dems are almost as bad. Another Pelosi? Yuck!
I’m on your side, but let’s not say bitch. There are better words to describe your disdain with Nancy Pelosi.
In fact, let’s just not say anything if you dont have anything nice to say at all. After all, thats how we beat Trump.
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The Democrats, left? As someone not living in the US, to me, Democrats are just a light right wing party. At best they might be considered centrists, but left?! Sorry for your “choices”.
FPTP means de facto 2 party system.
The democraric party is really just an uneasy coalition between many different parties in a big trench coat labeled “Democratic Party”, pragmatic leftists are usually in the Democraric party, but not all Democrats are on the “left”.
It’s crazy that the Republicans are like the one far right party in most European countries and Democrats are like all other parties combined.
Yuuuuup. It’s brutal over here.
The grift must continue!!!.. it’s a family tradition now
No nepotism happening here.
Fucking dynasties. Might as well be kings or royalty handing down positions by primogeniture.
Well the US oligarchy is trying to recreate feudalism for the modern age. So you’re not far off.
She has experience in govt, but has never been elected to any office. I hope the voters primary her for a slightly more experienced candidate.
you guys are in this mess because of “experienced candidates”. Experienced doesn’t mean good.
you guys are in this mess because of “experienced candidates”. Experienced doesn’t mean good.
So much for lesser evil!
She probably saw how easy it is for her mom to make money by insider trading and wants some of that green herself.
She’s 59. She should be thinking about retirement, not running.
This IS a retirement plan… best benefits in the entire country, very little actual work, tons of grifting opportunities and best of all, zero accountability… what is the electorate going to do? vote for Maga?
59? That seems extremely young to retire. I’d be more concerned about her being too right wing.
He parents are worth 200+ million. She probably never needed to work from the start. Hell, my grandpa retired earlier than 59. And he’s not rich.
That’s about her specifically. I’m just talking about age and fitness for office. There’s no question that Pelosi needs to go away.
I’d be more concerned about her being too right wing.
Two things can be true at once.
But also, 59 is getting close to geriatocracy territory. Just because the Senate is named after an institution of old men doesn’t mean it should strive to imitate all the bullshit of its namesake.
6 years from retirement age.
A workaholic attitude toward life is far worse for all of us than a right-wing ideology. Our political representatives believe it virtuous to work into the grave, so none of us get to retire.
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I want to be able to retire some day. I want my representatives to share that value. Working significantly past retirement age indicates they do not. This pervasive attitude among both parties is at the root of our economic issues. We are not establishing a society that promotes and supports people in their retirement.
Her mother reached retirement age in 2005. Instead of retiring at a reasonable age, she decided to keep working for another 21 years. That workaholic attitude is a massive problem.
Christine is trying to start her public service career at age 60. California state senators can serve up to three 4-year terms, making her 72 before she is forced out of that position. And she’s not likely to end her career in the California senate.
Whatever district she ends up running for would be better off finding someone 53 or younger to serve as a freshman state senator. A 53-year-old candidate would be able to serve three full terms before reaching retirement age.
First of all, I appreciate you ignoring my obviously stupid facetious insult. So I will give you a straight response in return.
Age does not matter in this case whatsoever. If you want to make an argument for health or mental acuity or something, I think that’s reasonable. I have no problem with the criticism of staying in office while old age deteriorates you, but plenty of people remain sharp well into their 90s and even 100s.
If you want to make the argument that we need to make more room for younger folks, I agree with that. I think we need to fix employment in general when it comes to age related discrimination, which applies to young and old alike. A formal system of apprenticeship and training in all fields is warranted, I think, and something similar can work in politics—but it is not a true vocation.
The whole workaholic culture you’re talking about doesn’t really apply to politics. It’s simply not the same as in other professions. These folks aren’t fetishizing work, they’re doing public service, and I mean as a concept; obviously right wingers aren’t doing any kind of “public service” by any reasonable definition.
Preventing people from taking office at 60 years old just because they might run for a different office later is authoritarian lunacy. This is truly ageist nonsense. The only thing that should matter is an ability to faithfully execute the duties of the office. If they are enfeebled, they need to retire. None of this Diane Feinstein nonsense where her staff was operating in her stead.
One of the things to keep in mind is that there’s a reason people have a “second life” as a politician. Sometimes as you get older, you gain a sense of duty to the community that raised you; sometimes it’s naked ambition. I’m not trying to make it sound noble, just that it’s not a career as such, and there’s a reason people come to politics late and stay late. I don’t think it’s a big deal. It’s part of an obsessive focus on identity. Nobody cares about Bernie Sanders because he’s a decent person.
The whole workaholic culture you’re talking about doesn’t really apply to politics. It’s simply not the same as in other professions.
I agree fully. In most other professions, a workaholic culture is not particularly harmful to anyone but the workaholic. An exception would be “management of laborers” where the workaholic is charged with directing the lives and livelihoods of rank and file workers. A more important exception is “politics”, where the workaholic is charged with legislating policy. It is in fields like these where workaholic culture is most damaging to all of society.
This is truly ageist nonsense.
I haven’t mentioned anything about health or mental acuity or enfeeblement. I haven’t mentioned anything about making room for the next generation. All those issues came from you. Don’t lay that “ageist” horseshit on me. Also don’t lay that “authoritarian lunacy” charge at me: I didn’t say she should be prevented from running. She shouldn’t run. It should be infeasible for her to run as a freshman state senator. Anyone who ever wants to be able to retire at a reasonable time in their lives should look at her proximity to retirement age and decide she is not the best option.
My position is “shares our values”. “Working yourself into the fucking grave” is not a value that should be shared or promoted in any way among our political representatives. We should be appalled at anyone of retirement age deliberately choosing to work for others. I happen to hold that particular value in rather high regard.
Sometimes as you get older, you gain a sense of duty to the community that raised you; sometimes it’s naked ambition.
And I have no problems whatsoever with a workaholic in a philanthropic or corporate role, or working for themselves. Most are still capable, many are still willling to work. But looking around my community, most are forced to work long past retirement age. They don’t get to retire on time (or sometimes at all) because the workaholic attitudes in our legislatures have not established a culture in which retirement is valued. They set the expectation for working into their 80s and 90s. They devalue retirement.
“You should die”, what a good argument… Not saying I think they’re right but I do think you’re wrong.
Because it’s not worth arguing about. If someone thinks that being 60 in elected office is worse than being right wing, that doesn’t even rise to the level of ridiculous.
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Bernie Sanders (as an example) is over 60 and doesn’t have the stance you mentioned earlier. Despite all the doom and gloom you see on the news, there are definitely older people fighting the good fight. I do wish politicians would shift down in age a bit but telling someone they should be killed for their opinion isn’t being a better person than those you’re fighting against.
Edit: I see your edit but my point is still that wishing death on people you disagree with ain’t the way
Bernie Sanders is another workaholic. He clearly doesn’t have a personal goal of “retirement”. He doesn’t share that value. The overwhelming majority of his position is great, but his personal attitude toward work is not.
When you fill the legislative chamberwith workaholics, you should not be surprised when you get workaholic legislation.
Ok so we agree, you just don’t like my shit talking. Totally acceptable.
Tbf, primaries are carefully orchestrated by elites of both parties to make sure only their preferred factions dominate the primary ballots. Signing up to register in Republican and Democratic parties are intentionally made to be hard.
The crowing from centrists that leftists lose elections that centrists have complete control over is circular reasoning.
It’s fair to think that centrists might have more support. But if someone believes DNC gives a fair shake to progressives, they’re dangerously naive.
Yeah. The primaries are a joke. It’s all orchestrated to make us think we have a choice when we vote.
I still remember when Bernie did his first run and suddenly a bunch of people had to vote provisional. It’s almost as if the elections are rigged on both sides, with only a state’s major opposing political party being caught.
Fucking political nepo babies.
We need a constitutional amendment forbidding members of one’s immediate family from running for office once one is above a certain level of success. President is right out. Include the VP, of course. I’d say that Speaker of the House is well within the power tier at which your family should no longer be able to maintain a multi-generational grip on power.
Nancy was a nepo baby, this is a nepo grandbaby. Third gen legacy lmfao.
End their political lineage early with booting them off the ballot in a primary election
always vote in primaries!
Love reinventing the aristocracy.
Can I ask what your main issue is with Christine?
Political dynasties are bad. Becomes a defacto aristocracy.
That is a good and fair criticism, and I hope someday we might move to ban it.
Can’t speak for OP but I’m presuming it’s her association by maternal relation with one of the leaders of the modern Democratic party, of which the blatant corruption, chronic neglect of the working class and unwillingness to pass off positions of power to the next generation has brought upon an era of desperation, extreme political divide and fascism.
I actually know next to nothing about Christine Pelosi or her politics. For all I know she could be the most progressive politician in California. But I find it far more likely that she’s just going to follow in her mother’s footsteps and push to maintain the status quo that benefits the wealthy and powerful at the cost of the average American.
Well now we’ve moved on to another topic, the claim of blatant corruption of Nancy Pelosi, can you cite an example of that?
They didn’t change topic, you just didn’t like the answer they gave.
I think we both moved naturally in this direction, didn’t accuse them of “changing the topic.”
I think it’s important to mention Pelosi never traded any stocks. Her sin was marrying a stock broker and having joint assets starting in college and refusing to ban that very act from congress. Many times this resulted in going against her husbands and her own interests, such as when she voted to regulate VISA despite them selling Paul a lucrative stock option, or the years where they actually operated at a net loss.
Now, if you were to complain about something else like her general disposition towards Republicans from the moment she was sworn: her awful nonpartisan confirmation speech, or her often crossing of the aisle into red territory, then you would be making fair criticisms. Instead everybody sits here and pretends that theres ome huge financial scheme going on with no evidence at all of corruption.
Because FOX news told you so.
Who the fuck watches Fox News besides boomers?
Well let me enlighten you, the anti-pelosi posts and comments sound 100% exactly like those fucks at Fox News.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nancy-pelosi-beat-market-581-162100416.html
A New York Post analysis revealed that before first taking office in 1987, Pelosi and her husband reported between $610,000 and $785,000 in stocks in their portfolio — worth $133.7 million today, according to the latest estimates from Quiver Quantitative (2).
That means that Nancy Pelosi made a 16,930%, blasting past 2,300% for the Dow Jones over the same period of 37 years.
She didn’t do that well without inside information about laws that would affect the stock market. A simple google search would have provided the figures, and logical reasoning would lead most to that conclusion. Stop with your bad faith bullshit.
I hate her too but she is by far not the only one. Why everyone focuses on her for stock trading is beyond me.
Because Republican voters ignore all the Republican politicians that do it, and Democratic voters are also sick of her actively blocking the attempts to make it illegal while she was speaker. Multiple times
George Soros made a billion dollars in a day. Melvin Capital lost billions and shuttered. Things like this happen to brokers.
I think stock trading should be banned for politicians, but I think its sill to ban Nancy Pelosi for having married one. She was never going to vote for that and I can’t blame her.
Seriously? Can you come up with a single example of something she accomplished that wasn’t because of corporate interest?
He is blindly loyal to every NeoLiberal, so they have no corruption. It’s like how Trump can’t be corrupt when MAGA brainwashed them into loyal cult members.
Any crimes they did is good, anyone who says otherwise is anti American.
She wrote and passed the Affordable Care Act
She created the “Select Committee on Energy Independence & Global Warming” which lasted from 2007 until Republicans dismantled it after gaining majority in 2010
She toured Asia and showed support for Taiwan and Tibet in opposition of China
After VISA offered her husband, a lifelong stock broker, a very lucrative stock option she voted against their interests anyways
OK, let’s start with the first one. The one that was written by the Heritage Foundation, the makers of Project 2025, that increased the stock price of every major health insurance company, and killed any chance for a universal health care plan. The one that left 30mil Americans uninsured, and another 90mil Americans under-insured. That one?
The version of the bill that passed the house was based on Stanford professor Alain Enthoven’s proposal in 1978 to use the federal employee benefits program as a model for a national health care program. Here is the Heritage Foundation dismissing that conspiracy theory.
The ACA increased healthcare coverage by tens of millions of Americans andade it illegal to discriminate based on preexisting conditions.
And if not for Independent Joe Lieberman and Every Single Republican, it would have instead been passed as public option and function virtually the same way as Germany’s healthcare system.
Dear leftist in San Francisco, you have a good option. Saikat Chakrabarti. Don’t let the nation down. If the people that made Trump, Gulliani, Bloomberg, & Cuomo can deliver, so can you.
But but but tv talking head man said name with more than 3 syllable is scarey jihad???
You gotta admit it’s problematic. I’m white as can be, and so is my first and last name, totally black middle name. Think John Tyrone Jones. Did not get a single reply on my resume for 2-months until I removed my middle name. 3 interviews, 2 offers and a job within 2 weeks. (This was 10 years ago.)
To this day I’m surprised Barack Hussein Obama made it all the way to the top. Times have changed drastically, but not that much.
LOL, at least I can pronounce her name. Some Indian names utterly kick my ass. Still, easier than Eastern European names. “I have no idea what those letters represent.” At least I can sound out Indian names. :)
Is it normal to put one’s middle name on their resume? That is not someone that has ever occurred to me to do
The romanized versions of Indian names rely on more recent standardized transliteration rules.
Eastern European names keep legacy orthographies that are tied to centuries‑old literary traditions, records, and national identities.
I struggle with many Polish names especially.
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Not gonna lie, I also had to look his name up. I’ve known about him for almost a decade, and I didn’t know how to spell his name. I too believe that it’s a racism card that has to be broken, but if a Muslim socialist who’s called a communist can do it, I think he might be able to as well. I even think he’s a better option than Mamdani.
He certainly has more political experience than Mamdani having been AOC’s chief of staff.
As a San Franciscan, I am telling everyone about saikat and how he is the best choice. But I think there are Democrats here that care more about low taxes and niche identity politics, like getting trans kids in sports, more than getting those same kids access to health care, housing, and food. SF is not an easy place for an economic leftist to get elected.
It sounds like Saikat Chakrabarti would be wise to come out in support of trans rights, if he hasn’t already.
This exact thing needs to be repeated everywhere. Well said.
FFS! Just take your vast troves of unethically sourced riches and go away, Pelosis!
(After said riches are properly taxed, of course)
And no one will vote for her. Just watch.
Please please please please please please please
