No absolutely every voter counts, what I’m getting at is voting for people who obviously aren’t going to win is a thrown away vote. A vote democrats COULD use. Idk how much more I can work with you. I vote in big and small elections, which is sadly more than I can say for a lot of people.
I realize that, but their wording leaves it open to interpretation like maybe they didn’t vote democrat at all. In which case nothing they say is valid imo.
That’s completely at odds with this comment I’m replying to.
How so? Are you suggesting I go try to convert Trump voters? I see you trying to make a point but maybe you could help me see what the point is you’re trying to make here.
You said my opinion wasn’t valid if I didn’t vote Democrat. Then went on to say that all voters are valid. Your first comment is the kind that people like me have been getting particularly strongly in the last 3 cycles, even if we do vote Democrat but dare to express a counter opinion.
I see it everywhere, and that wears me down and makes me, someone who barely bites my tongue to vote for Democrat after Democrat that I don’t believe should be president, want even less to do with the party whose vocal supporters blame my ideology and tell us we’re invalid.
It’s why I had such a strong reaction in my initial comment. That first one I replied to is par for the course blaming the far left for the failings of centrist Democrats, saying what the Republicans are doing is our fault. It’s tired, derisive, and I don’t give a shit about playing nice after a decade of this firehose of unfounded blame.
It’s why I had such a strong reaction in my initial comment. That first one I replied to is par for the course blaming the far left for the failings of centrist Democrats, saying what the Republicans are doing is our fault. It’s tired, derisive, and I don’t give a shit about playing nice after a decade of this firehose of unfounded blame
No one should feel bad for flaming the blue conservatives. They literally are running a spoiler candidate in NY right now. The mask isn’t off, its been shredded and tossed in the bin by the side of road.
Frankly I’m worn down by Trump eroding our rights every single day. But yeah I guess comments from online strangers is close 2nd for wearing on my mental fatigue. Bottom line is if you voted democrat, great idk what else you can do besides going above and beyond. I only blame non-voters, Trump-voters and people who voted 3rd party… everyone else, you’re all good to me. Hopefully we see some real change soon because I don’t see how much longer we can run this course.
I am too, but on top of that I’m worn down much more by people blaming the group not in power (progressive voters) that was fighting for real change instead of blaming the group that was in power (the Democratic Party in general) and is in power (the Democratic Party in internal politics).
I can’t do anything about Trump. I literally did everything I could against him, including voting for primary candidates that didn’t go on to lose against him. So when people like you tell me my opinion is only valid if I voted the right way, I seethe at the idea that you’re not blaming the people who actually have the power to put forward popular candidates but choose not to. You’re blaming and being dismissive and derisive to the wrong group. Your discourse in this thread is exactly what keeps the Democrats an ineffective opposition.
No absolutely every voter counts, what I’m getting at is voting for people who obviously aren’t going to win is a thrown away vote. A vote democrats COULD use. Idk how much more I can work with you. I vote in big and small elections, which is sadly more than I can say for a lot of people.
Literally you in these comments:
That’s completely at odds with this comment I’m replying to.
How so? Are you suggesting I go try to convert Trump voters? I see you trying to make a point but maybe you could help me see what the point is you’re trying to make here.
You said my opinion wasn’t valid if I didn’t vote Democrat. Then went on to say that all voters are valid. Your first comment is the kind that people like me have been getting particularly strongly in the last 3 cycles, even if we do vote Democrat but dare to express a counter opinion.
I see it everywhere, and that wears me down and makes me, someone who barely bites my tongue to vote for Democrat after Democrat that I don’t believe should be president, want even less to do with the party whose vocal supporters blame my ideology and tell us we’re invalid.
It’s why I had such a strong reaction in my initial comment. That first one I replied to is par for the course blaming the far left for the failings of centrist Democrats, saying what the Republicans are doing is our fault. It’s tired, derisive, and I don’t give a shit about playing nice after a decade of this firehose of unfounded blame.
No one should feel bad for flaming the blue conservatives. They literally are running a spoiler candidate in NY right now. The mask isn’t off, its been shredded and tossed in the bin by the side of road.
Frankly I’m worn down by Trump eroding our rights every single day. But yeah I guess comments from online strangers is close 2nd for wearing on my mental fatigue. Bottom line is if you voted democrat, great idk what else you can do besides going above and beyond. I only blame non-voters, Trump-voters and people who voted 3rd party… everyone else, you’re all good to me. Hopefully we see some real change soon because I don’t see how much longer we can run this course.
I am too, but on top of that I’m worn down much more by people blaming the group not in power (progressive voters) that was fighting for real change instead of blaming the group that was in power (the Democratic Party in general) and is in power (the Democratic Party in internal politics).
I can’t do anything about Trump. I literally did everything I could against him, including voting for primary candidates that didn’t go on to lose against him. So when people like you tell me my opinion is only valid if I voted the right way, I seethe at the idea that you’re not blaming the people who actually have the power to put forward popular candidates but choose not to. You’re blaming and being dismissive and derisive to the wrong group. Your discourse in this thread is exactly what keeps the Democrats an ineffective opposition.