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I’ve been a loyal Trump supporter since 2016.

I lost a job, friendships, been smeared online, doxxed, and pressed charges on people who’ve stalked and harassed me for supporting him.

If Trump doesn’t want my support, because I care about the Epstein Files, then I’m done.

Bye.

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      I love Bernie. While I don’t agree with him on everything, he’s consistently been on the moral right side of most issues. Here he is being arrested for protesting segregation in 1963:

      However. If he did even 1% of the things Trump did, I would call him out for it, demand he do better, and support his primary challengers if not. Unconditional loyalty to a politician doesn’t keep them in check, and actually harms us all…

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        Agreed. I like Bernie and AOC not because I always agree with them but because they both seem to be trying to make things better.

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        Do you fly a Bernie flag or constantly wear a Bernie hat, or constantly spout Bernie beliefs?

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          I haven’t seen a single flag or hat in months but those people still live among us.

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      +1.

      Even if someone wholesome (Mamdani?) somehow took over the Democrats, or any cool party, I would never be “loyal” to them.

      Maybe this is my old millennial ass shaking my fist, but I don’t get why folks are loyal to influencers. Loyalty should be two way and reciprocal, to friends and family one knows personally, not asymmetrically to someone who makes a living from thousands following them.

      Respect and admiration? Fine. But this guy’s a poster child for why loyalty is too far. After all, what does Trump think of him?

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        Seeing “old millennial ass” just seems so wrong.

        We’re the young generation, right? We’re like, 25 at most. Right?

        I’m 40. Oh my god. I need a Camaro and a broccoli haircut so I can fit in with the hip crowd. Broccoli hair is still a thing right? Haha

        Man it goes so fast.

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          Nah bro. We fucking pogslammed right into middle age. Our TalkBoys are rapidly approaching hearing aids. Our tamagachis are now our actual children.

          We old brother.

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            I really don’t feel like I should be. I mean, physically I guess I do. My back is always hurting.

            I wish I could smack it into younger people to do the fucking things that they want to do. They’ll blink their eyes and the world will be belong to the next bunch.

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          (hehe), sure brother, you’re still young. ::cracks open a beer and hands it to you:: have a seat in this lawn chair next to Gen X and tell us about it.

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            What’s funny to me is I grew up on gen x music and I remember looking up to those guys so much. They all looked like grown folks to me.

            Now when I watch the videos, I see kids. It’s crazy.

            This is a relatively new thing for me too.

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              At least you still have hair! I started shaving my head a few years ago at 35. Still haven’t gotten used to it, but I think it looks better than when it was thinning out in the front and getting stringy.

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                Not only am I blessed to have a full head of hair, but my younger brother has always been so much more handsome than me. Girls clawed to get to him, they fought to get to him.

                It was so funny the other night when I was on a video call with him and his wife, and I don’t even remember the comment that I made, but she pointed out that he was bald, and I had a full head of hair and I nearly lost it.

                I’m sorry that probably hurts you. It’s just a win for me, it was always so fucking easy for him. Now he’s bald and mad about it, and here I am with a beautiful lion’s mane.

                He could read this comment easily, he knows all of my usernames and shit online.

                So hey, I have a full head of hair asshole. Where’s your hair?

                It’s so crazy though, everything I ever did, he did it better. Just across the board entirely. Still to this day, shit I busted my ass on for 25 years. He’s doing it better with no effort.

                So all I really have is my hair. He has it all, the lucky bastard. It’s only right that he went bald. Nobody should be able to have it all.

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                  Ehhh I made it longer than all the other males on my moms side. They all went bald in their mid 20s. Gotta hurt.

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                    Yeah I’d say. I’m older now and things that would have killed me in my 20s don’t mean a damn thing now. Even if something does bother me, it just is what it is.

                    I don’t know. We get what we get. I’m crosseyed, can’t do anything about that. It used to bother me but it doesn’t anymore. The hair I do have is turning gray.

                    Whatever we get, we just gotta live with it. :p

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      Trump literally told them that he will not need them after this again. No, he does not want or care for their support!

      “In four years, You don’t have to vote again. We’ll have it fixed so good. You’re not going to have to vote.”

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      Being loyal to anyone who doesn’t know your name personally is borderline insane.

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        I can vaguely imagine soldiers being loyal to a general in a war. If a general always seems to find a way to win, even against the odds, I can picture his soldiers being willing to… well not to die for him, but the opposite. I can imagine them being fiercely loyal and trying to protect him because he’s making sure they don’t die.

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          You basically plucked the thought from my head as to why I added ‘borderline’ to that sentence. Yes, in a desperate situation, it’s not insane to glom on to the safest option available.

          But war has never been a great place for being rife with sane options, it’s almost always created by one or more people being insane in the first place and making it their neighbors’ problem.

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              I disagree with you on that. Hell is just God’s gator gitmo. The dictator has no review board and has never been consistent about their ethical standards (they claim to have such consistency and such a code, but beyond a few basic principles, ~90% of their code is a direct appeal to authority (might makes right), and independent review finds the consistency claims about as on par with the claims of the current POTUS.)

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      Yeah, describing yourself as a “loyal” politician supporter basically means you’ll ignore whatever wrong doing they do and root for your “team”.

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      I feel like that ought to extend to everybody. I’m “loyal” only to the acts/values I’m on board with, and even then, not really, because I’m always open to changing my mind based on new information.

      The concept of sticking with someone out of loyalty, regardless of who they are, after they’ve done something horrible, makes no sense to me, personally.

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      The closest I could say to being loyal would be AOC and Bernie, since I agree with most of their political stances and the things I do disagree with them on is mostly what I consider non-issues. But I’m definitely not running around waving their flag or wearing a big dumb hat to label myself, and certainly not vehemently defending any political blunder they might make.