So what you’re saying is that earth under 8-9 billion people isn’t sustainable and we need to start sacrificing our cars and meat due to overpolulation?
I mean those are good decisions anyway, I would 1000% rather take 30 minute nap on a train/bys or ride a bike/electric motorcycle on the way to work than sit in traffic for an hour. As for meat, I’m not vegan, but I could be if seiten was more common.
There is almost no public transport outside cities. I don’t remember the last time I had the opportunity to use one.
As for meat, I’m not vegan, but I could be if seiten was more common.
It’s not just meat. Milk, cheese and related products (pizza?), clothing, oils, gas production, ectera ectera. Even fertilizer for crops. I’d rather have sustainable earth population than give up things that make me happy
so you rather genocide billions of people than give up minor comforts ?
(hyperbole)
on a different note there are a lot of things that can and have to be changed to live sustainably but these changes have to be addressed systematically
How about “we should regulate our birth rates and constant population growth for your capitalist machine is not a healthy way forward for this planet for literally anyone living here except for the rich” instead of your “so you want a genocide?”
There is almost no public transport outside cities
Having public transit to drive you around would make 99.9999% of people happier than fighting the rest in traffic.
Japan has unmanned stations in the boonies where its just 1 line that splits at stations for trains to pass. They run regular service through tiny towns this way. Elsewhere and in the event more rural areas, buses and vans fill that role.
Bicycles and mopeds can move >10x more people per lane of road and requires <1/10th the pavement for parking. You dont understand what a blight cars are on urban development and human health until you’ve spent time in places with effective public transit.
The meat thing is a little more subjective, IDK how far off we are from being able to reasonably get rid of all animal products, but there are certainly areas it can be decreased without negatively affecting peoples standard of living.
Have you tried the alternatives lately? Impossible meat is indistinguishable from the real thing, and Quorn combined with some marmite or chicken flavoring is an excellent affordable alternative to beef and chicken.
Plant milks are pretty damn good, vegan cheese is getting close.
The others I’m a little surprised make you happier than alternatives. Plant fibers are the bomb for clothes, gas production is… Not something I associate with happiness. Mushroom leather is looking very promising as a replacement for animal leather.
So farm less cattle and get away from fossil fuels.
So what you’re saying is that earth under 8-9 billion people isn’t sustainable and we need to start sacrificing our cars and meat due to overpolulation?
I mean those are good decisions anyway, I would 1000% rather take 30 minute nap on a train/bys or ride a bike/electric motorcycle on the way to work than sit in traffic for an hour. As for meat, I’m not vegan, but I could be if seiten was more common.
There is almost no public transport outside cities. I don’t remember the last time I had the opportunity to use one.
It’s not just meat. Milk, cheese and related products (pizza?), clothing, oils, gas production, ectera ectera. Even fertilizer for crops. I’d rather have sustainable earth population than give up things that make me happy
so you rather genocide billions of people than give up minor comforts ?
(hyperbole)
on a different note there are a lot of things that can and have to be changed to live sustainably but these changes have to be addressed systematically
How about “we should regulate our birth rates and constant population growth for your capitalist machine is not a healthy way forward for this planet for literally anyone living here except for the rich” instead of your “so you want a genocide?”
My capitalist machiene?
Having public transit to drive you around would make 99.9999% of people happier than fighting the rest in traffic.
Japan has unmanned stations in the boonies where its just 1 line that splits at stations for trains to pass. They run regular service through tiny towns this way. Elsewhere and in the event more rural areas, buses and vans fill that role.
Bicycles and mopeds can move >10x more people per lane of road and requires <1/10th the pavement for parking. You dont understand what a blight cars are on urban development and human health until you’ve spent time in places with effective public transit.
The meat thing is a little more subjective, IDK how far off we are from being able to reasonably get rid of all animal products, but there are certainly areas it can be decreased without negatively affecting peoples standard of living.
Have you tried the alternatives lately? Impossible meat is indistinguishable from the real thing, and Quorn combined with some marmite or chicken flavoring is an excellent affordable alternative to beef and chicken.
Plant milks are pretty damn good, vegan cheese is getting close.
The others I’m a little surprised make you happier than alternatives. Plant fibers are the bomb for clothes, gas production is… Not something I associate with happiness. Mushroom leather is looking very promising as a replacement for animal leather.
Plant oils are easily as good as animal fats.