• technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 hours ago

    LOL this dude has always been trash. If people remembered that, he wouldn’t be in office.

    But I guess as usual we gotta vote blue no matter if it’s a fascist. \s

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    10 hours ago

    Maybe if the progressives pretended to back the bill the useless centrist dems would finally rouse themselves to fight it.

  • EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml
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    14 hours ago

    Are people actually shocked that a Democrat is doing what Democrats always do, they feign resistance, but in the end, give Republicans everything they ask for.

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      12 hours ago

      I think your blanket statement applies to certain people of a certain moral fortitude and not “Democrats”. Schumer and Pelosi made a life of this kind of bullshit but it doesn’t work anymore. That doesn’t mean other similarly aligned reps will toe that line.

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        I think your blanket statement applies to certain people of a certain moral fortitude and not “Democrats”. Schumer and Pelosi made a life of this kind of bullshit but it doesn’t work anymore.

        It hasn’t worked for decades and they kept doing it anyway.

        That doesn’t mean other similarly aligned reps will toe that line.

        Just the ones who don’t want heavily funded primary challengers.

  • TipRing@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    Ok, so I think the Democrat leaders are being spineless cowards as usual, but if I were trying to think of the strategy they are attempting here, I would say they are worried that Trump will blame the recession he is causing on the government shutdown and they don’t have confidence in their counter-messaging.

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      9 hours ago

      I’ll be more excited to vote for Democrats if they can find their balls and start obstructing the fascist takeover. Was it not enough that they used ICE to kidnap and try to deport a legal resident for exercising his first amendment right?! Why the fuck shouldn’t we want a government shutdown when that’s the sort of thing this regime would use it for?!

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        8 hours ago

        Was it not enough that they used ICE to kidnap and try to deport a legal resident for exercising his first amendment right?!

        Considering the way democrats behaved towards anti-genocide protesters? There’s some hesitation in the answer to that question.

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    13 hours ago

    Call your senators, leave voicemails if no one’s there, they can still block this despite Schumers push. The vote is in the morning. If all republican vote for it, they need 7 dems. 8 with Rand Paul who has said he’ll vote no. (Republicans are not using reconciliation so it needs the the filibuster)

    Many senate dems are publicly coming out against voting for cloture (meaning they won’t vote to let it get through the filibuster). As of what I last read, around 10 dems are thought to potentially vote to let it pass filibuster. Most of those are still not sure. We only need a handful more of those to become noes and it will get blocked. Some yeses have flipped to noes because of public pressure. We cannot let up now

    Link to find direct numbers your senators

    https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htm

    Or call the capitol switch board (202) 224-3121

    House dems are publicly telling the senate not to do this (and it’s not just AOC on this - it’s quite a few of them). Earlier read that 7 Dem state AGs are saying the same. Federal worker unions are telling senate dems not do this. Keep the pressure up

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      10 hours ago

      the current batch of dems have been coasting on programs and ideas the FDR dems built. All this generation of dem leadership has done is oversee slowly tearing it all down while slapping down any progressives that act like FDR did.