Hey Europe, what about you sign that partnership with Mercosul so I can buy you damn stuff without having to pay 100% taxes on the price to import?
Here’s hoping, Brazil and Europe deserve to succeed!
Is it really 100%?! How much to import from the US? And China?
Yep, I took from the official gov.br website, here is the link: https://www.gov.br/receitafederal/pt-br/assuntos/aduana-e-comercio-exterior/manuais/remessas-postal-e-expressa/calculadora-versao-iii/calculadora.html

About the countries: Every country has this taxes to import, except from deals in certains products.
That why we want the deal with EU so we can buy tecnology without this shit, and sell our goods as well to get rid of depending from USA
Isn’t Nothing practically a Chinese brand with just the marketing department working in the UK?
Spez is also part of Nothing
Fuck it then.
The days of people preferring the US to China are over. I would buy Chinese tech over US tech any day.
I’m pretty sure they all are
Jolla manufactures in Turkey through its partnership with reeder
The Jolla C2 is being made in Turkey. The new Jolla J2 that’s up for preorder now will be
madeassembled in Finland in the old Nokia fabs.
Also, there’s a EU flag but the UK has been so stupid to leave the EU.
Council of Europe, homie. The UK is still a member of that, so can use that flag.
No, the Council of Europe flag is different and it includes a white handwritten “e” all around the stars.
So confidant, yet so wrong.
My bad. I mixed it up with the Council of Europe “logo”, which is exactly the one that I’ve described.
EU flag
yeah, but they are still European though

The audiophiles will crucify me, but I will accept two USBC ports as consolation.
Right, there are cheap usb-c headphone now lol. Really no reason not to have high quality headphones with their own dedicated high end DAC
Those cheap USB c headphones virtually never have their own DAC
Edit: I’m wrong, see reply
How do you think they create (analog) sound from the
(digital) datafrom the USB-C port? There is an integrated chip with hardware USB support, stereo DAC and headphone-level amp, all of which is cheap now.Or was what you meant “the chip is built into the plug, the cable of the headphones is analog so subject to interference”? That is true and negates one of the advantages, although most audible interference is picked up pre-amplification (so the DAC and amp better be shielded, like inside a phone, which is not possible with USB-C).
USB-C does support analog out (see AAAM) so long as the host device supports / has nessesary hardware.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB-C#Audio_adapter_accessory_mode
TIL. Thanks!
Yeah. Usually the same kind of hardware that’d be used for a 3.5mm jack. This is to ease transition from 3.5mm, and why the usb-c to 3.5mm adapters are usually wires with no active components.
Most USB+c controllers you’d find that’d be used as phones just have this functionality built-in.
One advantage of USB-C earbuds is that they can have ANC without needing an integrated battery or other power source, since they are powered by the USB-C port
I’ll pick Jolla. I hope their new phone will be good.
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Volla runs Ubuntu Touch.
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I bought a fairphone 6 recently. It works as you would expect any phone to work with no noticeable downsides.
I paid extra to have /e/OS preinstalled. I could have bought the android version and upgraded it myself, but I wanted to support open source development. I want to try Ubuntu touch, but it hasn’t been updated for the fairphone 6 yet.
I can’t use any banking apps on /e/OS by default, but that’s because the apps require google play services for “security”. Enabling these services is possible, but would defeat the purpose of getting the phone to de-google. Bank websites still work, just slightly less convenient.
I dislike the case. It leaves more of the phone exposed than I would like. It does seem to protect the phone from most drops though.
I’m still disappointed by the lack of headphone jack, but I hate Google more.
I was surprised that my favourite feature became the hardware switch. I rebound it to the torch. For moments when you want a light for just a few seconds, it’s so much more convenient.
Could you download Google play, download the banking apps and then delete Google play? Does it matter to have Google play if you only use it for a few apps?
Not only the play store is needed. You need to install an special package with the whole of Google services, often while in recovery/download mode.
But, to answer/illustrate your question, as a matter of fact, you can install Play store apps even without Play store. Aurora store is an app that connects to the Google servers too get you the very same apks. That’s when you realize, after installed the banking app, that it starts bitching about the Google services missing. “This app was designed to run with Google Play Services, and cannot operate without it”. And poof, it auto closes in your face.
We need to demand from our banks that they run without Google or Apple. Maybe there are banks who do?
Google is the one reassuring them that this way their banking app won’t be tampered with by anyone. It’s how they convinced them to trust the Google/Apple in the first place. That’s why they moved away from physical tokens and the like, because the trusted agent is now Google. I’d rather go back to tokens and a webpage I could use from the phone, TBH, but that’s almost a non starter these days.
Any of them run Linux or fully non-google android?
Jolla’s Sailfish is Linux.
Fairphone has postmarket os support.
Only FP4 has decent support. Newer models have broken features, like WiFi and audio.
This is a REALLY IMPORTANT detail.
Ubuntu touch supports Volla
I just wish there was a way to get the Fairphone in the U.S. I love the repairability aspect and I already use LineageOS as my main OS to keep my devices as long as possible. I also have access to a 3D printer to build accessories and parts for them too.
A good idea if you can’t buy Euro is to buy used and flash LineageOS if your device is supported. I’m using a Pixel 4a 5G as my driver with LineageOS since I know how to repair it and I have easy access to parts for them. (Thanks to buying bulk parts from local offices near me that used them.)
Pretty sure Murena (the guys behind /e/os) sell it in the US.
I don’t know who Murena is, but I appreciate you sharing this with me! I will definitely look into them! Do they just go by Murena or do they have a Merchant front with a different name?
Well, I suppose that you can order one via international delivery company straight from a manufacturer/seller. It may be more expensive and longer to wait but totally possible.
I thought about doing it, but the prices for parts and importing them was my reasoning to stop because of the tariffs and the already high price of the product. But I might give it a go once I run out of parts for my Pixel 4A 5g or the LineageOS maintainer stops working on it.
Unfortunately GrapheneOS only supports Pixels.
Buy them used to prevent the money from going to Google and donate the savings to Graphene.
Or, simply don’t create value for used pixel devices by not buying them. Buying used phones of one brand will make it’s resell value for up. People like new phones with a good resell value, people buy those phones. Buying a used pixel gives money to Google.
Buy whatever and flash grapheneOS on it.
Sure, buy american hardware to flash an operating system based on an american operating system made by an american mega-corp. (yes, graphene OS only works on google pixels afaik) You understood the assignment perfectly on this european community, congrats.
Only Pixels support it
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