It’s rare for Italian lawmakers from across the political spectrum to agree on anything. But on Tuesday, the lower house of Parliament unanimously ratified a law introducing the crime of femicide into Italy’s criminal code, punishable by life in prison.
(title from entry in NYT’s The Morning newsletter)
Sorry for all the down voters, but this guy is right. Modern western societies have struggled to make laws equal for everyone. This is a step down for on good reason.
If half of the murder victims in any unchangeable demographic are killed because they are part of that demographic, why not extend hate crime coverage to them? It doesn’t preclude you from charging other women with femicide, nor does it preclude you from making men or non binary people a hate crime category if they become targeted for their gender, but extending it to gender in general if that’s not reflective of crime statistics increases the costs of investigation by a lot.
So, your defense of gender discrimination is unsubstantiated economic expediency? Do you even pretend to care about morality or equality before the law?
Unresearched claims of increasing “costs of investigation by a lot” don’t justify immorality & violating a universal human right for equal protection of the law. It’s not hard to quit rationalizing the indefensible & admit femicide should have been addressed through a nondiscriminatory law on gendercide.
How many of the men who are murdered in Italy are killed for being men? If it’s a large proportion (for women in Italy, it’s over half), then sure, apply it to them.
Maybe bring that up with the Italian government. I’m sure they’d respond well to a letter with the same tone as your comment. I’m not continuing this conversation with you though.
Irrelevant, because again
Not arguing with them, arguing with your immoral defense.
As if anyone should care? Abandon your argument: it’s clearly not worth defending.
Nah, you’re just rude, aggressive, and not intending to discuss or understand , but to cudgel. My time’s worth more. Blocked :)
Ifs and buts.
Russians would love this stuff. Killing a Russian on occupied territory as a hate crime against minority for Ukrainians with stiffer penalties or even death sentence.
…as an example.
The minute you start creating special groups it will be abused. Lessons from history is the reason why “all equal under law” was something to strived for.
Why not make the rich a hated minority, so we can get back to good old aristocracy.
Laws are different during wartime against an invading army. If it’s a random Russian who’s been living in Ukraine lawfully for the last thirty years, then yeah, it is an ethnically motivated crime and should be punished differently.
The reason that hate crimes are handled differently is because a person who commits one is more likely as a whole to commit more hate crimes than one who kills an individual for individual reasons (though sometimes it’s just a crime of opportunity, which happens to involve a targeted group, in which case it should be determined in court not to be a hate crime).